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Could we ever win modern Eurovision? Yes. Though a half decent song would be required.

Posted Tue 27 May 2008 11:31AM BST by Chris Cooke in a-CMU-blog
So, good old Terry Wogan seemed more downbeat than ever at the end of the Eurovision Song Contest on Saturday night, despite being one of only three commentators at the event to get a name check during the proceedings. The downbeatenness was due to Britain’s performance in this year’s big Contest – we came last, in case you didn’t know – coupled with an increasing frustration at Eurovision’s infamously political voting, and possibly as a result of Terry having drunk that quantity of wine that sits somewhere between tipsy and all out sloshed – you know, the ‘why oh why’ stage.

It’s no secret that political voting – where countries automatically award top marks to their neighbours – has become the norm at Eurovision, and of course that tends to favour the Eastern European contenders [a] because they seem more prone to support them next door and [b] there’s a lot more of them meaning there are a lot more douze points to be awarded. Britain, who tended to always do OK at Eurovision, and Ireland, who had a habit of always winning, have perhaps suffered most as a result of the expanded Contest. After all, if the UK didn’t get an automatic place in the final (thanks to our financial contribution to the proceedings), it’s likely that we, like Ireland, would not have even been performing on Saturday night.

So down was Terry with it all, that after Russia’s win on Saturday night, and confirmation next year’s Contest would be in Moscow, he told British Eurovision viewers “I have to decide whether I want to do this again”, before adding “Western European countries have to decide whether to compete when they stand so little chance of winning”. Since Terry’s conclusions, a Liberal Democrat MP with possibly too much time on his hands has tabled a House Of Commons motion saying the BBC should withdraw the £173,000 it puts into the Contest because of the voting farce.

But surely such political voting has become as much part of the Eurovision thing as Wogan’s famously sarcastic commentary, and while it has put some of us older Eurovision entrants into the lower league, it’s not fair to say that political votes always decide the winner. OK, Russia and Serbia may have won the last two, but both Finland and Greece have taken the title since the arrival of the Eastern Europeans and their sneaky cartel voting. It’s harder for Britain to be victorious in the modern Eurovision, but I don’t think it’s a total impossibility.

Because here’s the thing. Terry seemed especially disappointed because he reckoned this year’s UK entry was good. I disagree, I thought it was rubbish. I’ve just made myself listen to it five times in a row, and I still can’t remember how it goes. Andy Abraham may have put in their performance of his life, but a rubbish song is a rubbish song. It may have not been the worst song performed on Saturday night, but at least most of the other rubbish songs had some of that Eurovision quirkiness about them, rather than just being the sort of thing you’d normally find on the b-side of some bland teen star’s second single.
   
The UK, despite having one of the most vibrant songwriting communities in the world, and a hugely successful pop industry, has entered a lot of rubbish songs into Eurovision in the last few years. The last one that I can actually hum was the Jessica Garlick performed ‘Come Back’ which, it’s worth noting, came third. Frankly, we’re just not trying.

Of course the problem is that we here in Britain have long loved Eurovision in an ironic sense, meaning most genuinely credible songwriters and artists worry about getting involved. And given our tendency to come last these days, big name songwriters and artists worry about the embarrassment of putting themselves forward only to be knocked down by a bunch of overly loyal to their own Eastern Europeans. But, that said, a number of genuinely talented musicians have expressed an interest in getting involved. I sense that the two things that are stopping them are the bureaucrats that manage the UK’s Eurovision entry, and the requirement to get over the tedious hurdle of the first stage where BBC 1 viewers get to pick which song goes forward to the main event.

I’d suggest sacking the current Eurovision team, bringing in some fresh talent, getting rid of the British heat stage, and securing some of the country’s best songwriting and performing talent – and sending in a genuinely good song performed by one of our best proper pop bands. A brilliant and cool song in itself isn’t enough, of course, France’s entry this time proved that, but with a bit of strategic thinking and the best of British on board, I reckon we could win over even some Eastern European votes come Moscow 2009.

And if we do and we don’t – well then I’ll join Terry in a chorus of why oh why oh why oh why.

14 Comments

1. Yahoo! Music User -
Yea, I'd pull it if i was in control of the BBC's purse strings.... it's a right load of [profane]e!

2. Cheryl A -
why should british licence payers fund this rubbish? Eastern european countries seem perfectly happy to work/live here but do not seem the same way when the chips are down.We now know we are not considered as part of europe! woopee

3. Yahoo! Music User -
But if people are living in England, they can't vote for England. Not unless they flew to another country just to make the phonecall, and that seems like a bit of a waste.

4. Huggy Bear -
The claim that Greece and Finland winning shows the UK can misses the point that the Greeks have always been involved in political voting (Cyprus anyone) and Finland benefits from the Baltic block (Scandanavia and Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania). Eurovision has turned into the best Eastern European act all paid for by Western Europe - UK, France, Germany, Spain & Italy (who refuse to enter). Other western european nations have already noted this - Austria have pulled out political voting. It is a simple fact last year the highest western european country struggled to make the top 10 - it has nothing to do with the quality of the song.

5. Yahoo! Music User -
Eastern Europeans this, Eastern Europeans that... bla bla ... lets face it you are just jealous that you don't have neighbours that actually fancy you (France … ? ) and the song this year ... you did have some fabulous ones in the 70-80-90’s get back to that quality and you'll be at the top - with or without neighbours!

6. ronald996403 -
I enjoyed Eurovision this year although as always ui had to caerfully maanage the sound to avoid most of Wogans "hilarious" small minded ommentary.

Why we would expect a proven loser on a UK Wide talent contest to triumph on a Europe Wide contest is a mystery to me. However after watching both semi finals (Thanks BBC!)
It was obvious to me that the UK entry was completely inappropriate for Eurovision and had absolutly no chance.

7. wakeupbetty -
Katrina and The Waves, anyone?

8. trev h -
The Russian singer is huge in East Europ and it's quite probable all the little girlies who have him on their wall voted for him. Don't forget Russia also came close to winning when TATU did Eurovision.

Yes, a good song would help but also, sending somebody famous and not unknowns (in an international sense) might help.

9. Beenie -
Maybe there should be some weighting to the votes, so that a vote for the UK or Ireland is worth 10 points where as a vote from Estonia for Russia is worth just 1. Any who thinks thats unfair, maybe you should have voted fairly in the first place!!!

But also we should just cut our losses and aim for the 10 points across the board instead...

10. Beenie -
No wait better Idea, some one should post the numbers of the voting from other countries on the internet. If we dial those numbers they would go through other countries voting systems and we could vote for ourselves!!!

11. Γιάννης -
I think you're getting the point and you're absolutely right in most of your remarks.
My country (Greece) has almost always been awarded 12 points from Cyprus, but that's not enough to win a contest. We've been disqualified some times despite Cyprus' douze points!
And as far as Finland is concerned (Huggy Bear, this goes mostly to you), it's had some of the worst results ever, so being favoured by just one block simply isn't enough for any country to win the Eurovision.
Moreover, I believe that the UK is perhaps the most capable country of sending a good song with a good performance and promoting it in a decent enough way so as to win the Contest. No one is against the UK in Europe; it's the UK that has been underestimating the Contest during the last decade and therefore receives all these poor results.
Take care!
The thing with the UK

12. tony j -
I'm against England being part of europe

13. Arthur Nibble -
The way the BBC handles the song selection is a joke. The last time we had a decent song / final placing ("Come Back") was, I believe, the last time that anyone could pay an entry fee and submit a song, and the judging was partly done by listeners' votes on Radio 2 - "Come Back" was written by an airline pilot rather than a jobbing songwriter.

In recent years, it's been a closed shop, with certain producers and/or songwriters being chosen by the hierarchy. I tried to enter a song myself last year and personally spoke to Kevin Bishop and Dominic Smith at the BBC to find out how to submit my entry - they were both bolshy and unhelpful, even disdainful.

14. jason.ranford -
I think it's sad that amateur songwriters can't submit a song for the UK heats for Eurovision. I was thinkng of sending a song myself. I wonder if anyone would be able to tell me if the BBC are going to change their policy for 2009.
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