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iPods half full of illegal tracks

Posted Mon 16 Jun 2008 3:53PM BST by Mitch Carter in The Guestlist

Research conducted by the University of Hertfordshire has uncovered that 48% of the music stored on the average digital music player has been downloaded illegally. The figure rises to almost 80% amongst teenagers. The extent of illegal downloading by one of the largest survey of youth music ownership has shocked the industry, which is struggling to cope with declining CD sales.

Former Undertones front man Fergal Sharkey and now Chief Executive of British Music Rights said "I was one of those people who went around the back of the bike shed with songs I had taped off the radio the night before. But this totally dwarfs that, and anything we expected." His comments certainly seem to reflect a growing trend, as CD sales declined by 10% in 2007.

The study also shows:

63% of people illegally download

Just 15% of respondents are persuaded not to upload because of the risk of getting caught

95% engage in some form of copying

Have you ever downloaded a track to your ipod illegally and if so how much of your music collection does it account for?

755 Comments

41. October -
there are bigger things to worry about than piracy.

when you stop gun crime, war and murder, i'll buy ALL of my music rather than downloading most of it.

42. Yahoo! Music User -
Good On You All I Agree Cds Are Far Too Expensive.

43. Yahoo! Music User -
what makes you think its just 'chavs'? you snob

44. Gavin -
Meh, each to their own I guess.
Like someone has already said the music industry is all about lining people like Simon Cowell's pockets.

Also "behold_the_curmudgeon" calm down, it's only a music download! Bit harsh to say they are scum, all they're doing is downloading music.. BIG DEAL.

45. Nevik -
If People know they can get Music for nothing, Then they are going to do it. I get free Music but also Pay for it aswell.

CDs are alot cheape to what they was years ago but i dont think that its breaking the law.

People with Guns and Knives are useing them and all your botherd about is People downloading free Music. Makes me sick.!!!!

46. Yahoo! Music User -
like fergal said he used to tape music off the radio, this is just the modern day version. It isn't like you physically have the cd in your hand. I used to do the same as him but would still buy albums/cd's if they warranted purchasing and still do. Nothing has change apart from everybody is just a bit greedier nowadays and the music is pretty crap nowadays, so much so its not even worth downloading for free ;)

47. david -
david f,on some sites
all music downloads are free so how can you be breaking the law by having them,

48. Wayne -
not everyone who downloads unpaid music is a Chav. There is no difference between doing this and making a copy of a vinyl album onto audio cassette - which people did for years.
I rip all my CD albums to IPod and regularly trade them with friends who have albums I want.

I do also buy music online and download it but I do that less frequently since this DRM software has stopped me transferring it onto CD - If I buy music on download I want to be able to hard copy it to CD or I might as well buy it on CD or trade for it.

49. Richard C -
Its soo easy to download music for free, so you'd have to be crazy to pay for it. As long as you don't download, burn and sell (thats seriously illegal), then i don't see a problem with it.

50. bruce -
i use limewire and its great for music. i also use some other websites but i usually download from itunes

51. George -
Every year the copyright law has been changed to protect the industry, while the consumer has been left out. Why not copy one's own music and back it up. Why is it illegal to make sure that I have a backup just in case? Because you want us to come back for more. So if fact what do we get when you take our money? A one-off licence. And if accidentaly something happens, though luck??

I encourage the idiot the impertinent above (behold_the_curmudgeon) and cease offending people she doesnt know.

52. Yahoo! Music User -
what is the difference between downloading an album and making a cd of an album for a friend? i can see none.

as a musician myself, whose music is on sale, i see no problem with people sharing my music for free.

all i hear on this issue is 'downloading music is illegal!'... but i don't think it's that simple. if i download an album, and like it, then i buy the cd, and get the benefit of the cover art and sense of ownership... how much proof is there that bands who make their living off of their music really lose out to downloading?

other people here have said 'it's hardly breaking the law'... well, it is breaking the law, as in there's a law written down and you've broken it. but i see it as pretty much a victimless crime. maybe i am being ignorant - but at the moment i can comfortably reconcile my downloading habits with my moral outlook.

53. Yahoo! Music User -
It's not really stealing to be honest. If you are stealing something then you are taking something away from someone and then they will no longer have it but if you for example were to download songs without paying then although it is morally wrong I would not say it is illegal.

What goes around comes around, the government tax us on the money that WE earn and then they tax us again on the things that we spend OUR money on. The government are essentially stealing from us.

It's like when you buy a ticket to park in a car park. You are buying a ticket and therefore renting a car parking space for the amount of time you have paid for and the amount of time stated on the ticket. HOWEVER they are saying that it is not allowed to give your ticket to another driver if you leave the car park before your time ends, even though you have essentially rented a car parking space and if you want to let someone use the space that you have rented and paid for then you should be allowed to but because they are being greedy they are saying it is not allowed.

The government steals from us everyday and that is actually stealing money out of our pockets, its not like taking a copy of something.

54. Yahoo! Music User -
Like most people I have downloaded music from the internet so I can play on my MP3 player etc. I must say though that I do not consider it theft due to the fact that over the years I have purchased these songs on plastic, tape and CD's. I have paid for these songs many times and downloading them saves me a lot of hassle as I do not have to convert them etc from CD to MP3 format.

The music industries will never be able to stop down loading of music but let's be fair and pay for any new songs that are released, it will not cut into your pocket too much.

55. Alex -
you know it's funny that the music industry turned around and were shocked to see that music was available for free on the internet. they cannot say they couldn't foresee this happening. we get computers with the ability to rip music then of course someone else is going to post it up somewhere to share with everyone. And then theres the issue of songs that are not available in this country. I'm talking about bonus tracks and such. Europe, Japan and the USA get different bonus tracks. So if you wanted to legally obtain the other bonus tracks you'd have to import another two versions of the same album which you already bought just for one song. And you'd be paying more for it because of postage and packaging.

56. surrell -
I think if its under half the music its still more music purchased it will never be stopped I bet pop artitit ect used to download or record it off the radio in there day there only against it now there effecting them. any way there making bags of money any way!

57. Yahoo! Music User -
i have roughly 20 tracks on my ipod out of 2000 that i have paid for
i dont see why we should have to pay for music, its a ripoff to pay for a cd when you only want one song on it

58. James -
decline in cd sales not surprising considering how rubbish most of the chart music has been especially the last couple of years.if i hear or see a band i like on youtube or on the radio i may download it and if i like it enough buy the cd.
another problem is a lot of the the best songs and b-sides are not on itunes etc so illegal downloads the only way theres my rant for the day

59. Yahoo! Music User -
people will not stop downloading music without paying for it, definetley not in the near future anyway.
These huge corporate record companies are the reason why people dont pay for music anymore.
The artists are the ones who are struggling.
A new reveloution is needed to push out corporate record company influence and greed.

60. Yahoo! Music User -
Dowloading music is nothing like stealing a car, how ridiculous! Tell me exactly how you can copy someone else's car that they just bought?

I do download music, but I do it more out of convenience than any kind of protest at CD prices. I'll often do it to see if I like a band that my friends reccommend to me, download one or two songs and sample them. I'll usually go out and buy the album if I like a couple of the singles.

I think if companies want to stop piracy, they should make music widely available CHEAPLY online for downloaders. There are practically zero costs involved compared to producing CDs, it's an ideal compromise. Buy the CD for £10, or download the whole album for £3, I know what would be more popular...
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