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iPods half full of illegal tracks

Posted Mon 16 Jun 2008 3:53PM BST by Mitch Carter in The Guestlist

Research conducted by the University of Hertfordshire has uncovered that 48% of the music stored on the average digital music player has been downloaded illegally. The figure rises to almost 80% amongst teenagers. The extent of illegal downloading by one of the largest survey of youth music ownership has shocked the industry, which is struggling to cope with declining CD sales.

Former Undertones front man Fergal Sharkey and now Chief Executive of British Music Rights said "I was one of those people who went around the back of the bike shed with songs I had taped off the radio the night before. But this totally dwarfs that, and anything we expected." His comments certainly seem to reflect a growing trend, as CD sales declined by 10% in 2007.

The study also shows:

63% of people illegally download

Just 15% of respondents are persuaded not to upload because of the risk of getting caught

95% engage in some form of copying

Have you ever downloaded a track to your ipod illegally and if so how much of your music collection does it account for?

755 Comments

101. Yahoo! Music User -
How does the artist not lose money from illegal downloading? I suppose they should just write music for nothing? What a bunch of morons.

And as for the person who said "it's hardly breaking the law"....well, sorry to burst your bubble, but it is.

It's not a case of how much money people have to buy things. If you can't afford something, you don't buy it. If you can, you do. The excuse of having a right to steal because you're not "rich" is nonsense. I'm not rich, but an mp3 is the cost of a couple of cigarettes, not exactly the stuff bankruptcies are made of....

102. Chris -
Completely agree with comment 2. In the age of the internet why can't I buy on-line tracks from the USA and save over half the cost.

I seem to remember that nearly 70% of the cost of a CD goes to the government, here's a thought get them to drop their rip-off percentage. For that reason I buy a lot of CD's second hand and at boot sales.

Also I have been trying to get some old back catalogue stuff from the 70's and 80's, so i'd like to ask behold_the_curmudgen where the hell people get off trying to change £29.50 on Amazon for what is essentially B A Robertson's Greatest Hits. Now tell me how cheap CD's are

103. Yahoo! Music User -
if down loads where cheaper people might not illegally download
all music should be readily available and should be cheap

104. Martin N -
Of course its breaking the law, its stealing, myself as a music producer spends countless hours producing music, only to see a lot of that hard work end up on torrent files, ITS STEALING no matter how many of you say "its a couple of tracks here and there" it all adds up, your just like a common thief!!!

105. chloe -
Well i pay for my music. Musicans work hard to write the music so the least i can do is pay for it. and its not Music labels 'lining their corporate pockets" expecially if the band/artist is on an indie recored label. Your ripping off your favorite artists for what a tenner.

106. andrew -
ok
so copying music like is bad! we all know we are not supposed to, generaly i dont althow some times i do for two reasons #1 i like to try befour i buy, so somtimes i will copy music if i like it ill then buy it if i dont like it i delete it. #2 i often but dvd's so i have already paid for the rights to the music on them, i will then copy the dvd soundtrack rather than buy it! are either of these things that bad? not realy it means i buy more music and dvd's

107. john paul -
i always use itunes or buy the c/d now after my computer got full of viruses with downloading limewire. it cost me 80.00 to put right. never trust them again.

108. Dann -
I use abit of both, I mean... I hardly see it as breaking the law, this is almost as rediculus about banned balloons, if they do somthing about downloading tracks illegaly, you might aswell incinerate every baloon thats made

109. casey -
i download music i can't find in the shops. i keep looking for it and still can't find it. then i just download. especially for the evanescence album 'the open door'. couldn't find that anywhere so i downloaded the tracks and put them on a cd.

110. Yahoo! Music User -
The music industry is worth loads anyway and they don't deserve the huge amount of money they get. The people who deserve money are the hard workers who improve this world such as doctors, teachers, scientists, etc. Therefore who cares if people download for free when the music industry leeches the money from people who deserve it.

111. Ginger -
I love the fact that every-body thinks its stealing.
Someone bought the original copy, all they are doing it sharing with there unknowing cyber friends, whats the big deal.
If you think I'm paying £12 for a CD that only has 3 tracks i like, you can think again, i would rather spend that money on something useful, like dope.

112. Sean -
"The figure rises to almost 80% amongst teenagers."

Wow... If I gave them my iPod that figure would rise again...

Funnily enough, when you buy an iPod/MP3 Player/CD's, you pay a small amount of tax on it known as "pirate tax", which gets given back to the artists, so technically you are still funding their work...

... and if they are taxing it then it can hardly be called stealing :P

113. Anh Kiet -
I personally don't download music but reading all of the comments, the people have a right to share. It will never be against the law to share, be it data, music or anything. Sad excuse for people to be getting so worked up about non paying people for downloading music.
As a warning to those who do: Downloading it form p2p managers, such as limewire or Edonkey could result you in a massive fine, due to the fact that you're using music files that companies have lisenced and therefore could result you in a big bill. There was a recent yahoo news about a girl who used a spice girls song and was fined £3000...
So I do encourage buyin CD's unless you know a safe way to download, or ask a friend who has downloaded to burn you a CD so they get the fine XD

114. Yahoo! Music User -
Wow! Where has this report come from? Surely not under a rock!

115. Yahoo! Music User -
I have 20,000 tracks ALL LEGAL and would have more if the industry got off it's A**E & made stuff availiable legally.
I don't download illegal stuff but at times I've thought about it as what I want isn't availiable to get online. Watch the industry bleat now after this research has been published.

116. Yahoo! Music User -
All this study shows is that teenagers are either a) more honest than adults or b) too stupid to realise that they should be lying. Almost everybody I know has an mp3 player and if they were all truly honest, I think you'd find that almost all of the music on them is "illegal"...especially as its actually against copyright law to copy to mp3 in the first place.

I don't approve of theft, but the fact of the matter is that everyone knows that CDs cost pennies to make and that the only people profiting from their manufacturer is the big wigs such like Simon Cowell. This is why internet based, or home record producing artists are becoming more and more popular - the average joe doesn't mind paying the artist, in fact most of the time they *want to*...but they know when they're buying a CD that the artist doesn't see the money. Until that is rectified, illegal downloading and copying will continue. Fact.

117. Yahoo! Music User -
Yeh people share books...its pretty much exactly the same with sharing music...they cant make you pay to share books with each other so why should they with music?

i still buy cd's occasionally if i really like the artist and i want a proper hard copy of the music.

and at the end of the day...why pay for things you can easily get for free? We invented money after all ;D

118. Yahoo! Music User -
I think you should enforce DRM. Then nobody will buy music at all, the exposure will be only through media and all the funding for the music industry will come from copyright licensing.

Or perhaps the music industry should simply back off, stop worrying about making money as it's primary incentive, stop producing crap like pop idol and let good artists produce decent music that people will want to buy.

119. TommyM -
Why would I spend my money on a cd that I only want 1 track off?!

If I download music, it's for my personal use - I don't try to profit in any way off it. The musicians should be about getting their music heard rather than cashing in as much as possible.

120. Yahoo! Music User -
Bill Gates monopolising software is illegal, but nothing is done about that. Havent heard any reports about any pop stars living in 1 bed bedsits yet, cos their music sales have slumped due to piracy.Warnings from the government are all scare tactics because they know they are screwed. Paramount pictures have developed software to gain ip addresses of people downloading illegal movies, such as Cloverfield, but nothing for music. Dont dl movies or software, just mp3 tracks.It is untraceable if you use reer guardian or have an ip filter set up on the torrent downloader sites.I am a pc developer and know the score. Its all uncontrolable, and 95% of people do it, the other 5% just dont admit it!
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